Klyros Language - Revision history

Daevaorn: /* Konos (substantial words) */ Removed supposed clarifications for things misunderstood by the respective auther: K-lyr-os means "the living things" and is of course thus synonymous to "people" but it is not an exception to the rule. (In fact it is the base of all rules, since this is why I invented the K-prefix as noun-formation morpheme, in order to explain the race's name.)

2023-11-17T19:22:34Z

Konos (substantial words): Removed supposed clarifications for things misunderstood by the respective auther: K-lyr-os means "the living things" and is of course thus synonymous to "people" but it is not an exception to the rule. (In fact it is the base of all rules, since this is why I invented the K-prefix as noun-formation morpheme, in order to explain the race's name.)

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	"-san" suffix to the root. ''For example: "gul" is "to hate", "kgul" is "(the) hate", "kgulra" is "hating", "kgulsin" is "the one who hates"; "kgulsan" is "the hated one", "kjo" is "joining", "kjobav" is "unity (created by the process of kjo)"''		"-san" suffix to the root. ''For example: "gul" is "to hate", "kgul" is "(the) hate", "kgulra" is "hating", "kgulsin" is "the one who hates"; "kgulsan" is "the hated one", "kjo" is "joining", "kjobav" is "unity (created by the process of kjo)"''

	Of course, not each ksin has all possible konos. ''For example "kgulpac" is ~~nonsense -~~ no tool is used in hating.''		Of course, not each ksin has all possible konos. ''For example "kgulpac"'' is not used in general since no tool is used in hating. However there might be figurative uses for such constructions.

	However, there are cases when the sense of kon without sub-class suffix differs from "the process", or "proper" suffix is not used. It is mostly a matter of being understood, so it is best to put them into context almost all the time.

	~~''As most notable example: "Klyros" is not "processes of living", but "people"~~.''

	===Kzanos (descriptive words)===		===Kzanos (descriptive words)===

Daevaorn: /* Konos (substantial words) */ more precise distinction of gerund/abstract noun as defined above

2023-09-30T18:31:05Z

Konos (substantial words): more precise distinction of gerund/abstract noun as defined above

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	#the process itself (no suffix)		#the process itself (no suffix)
	So to have kon that defines the target of the process just add "k-" prefix and		So to have kon that defines the target of the process just add "k-" prefix and
	"-san" suffix to the root. ''For example: "gul" is "to hate"; "kgul" is "hating"; "kgulsin" is "the one who hates"; "kgulsan" is "the hated one"; "kjo" is "joining"; "kjobav" is "unity (created by the process of kjo)"''		"-san" suffix to the root. ''For example: "gul" is "to hate", "kgul" is "(the) hate", "kgulra" is "hating", "kgulsin" is "the one who hates"; "kgulsan" is "the hated one", "kjo" is "joining", "kjobav" is "unity (created by the process of kjo)"''

	Of course, not each ksin has all possible konos. ''For example "kgulpac" is nonsense - no tool is used in hating.''		Of course, not each ksin has all possible konos. ''For example "kgulpac" is nonsense - no tool is used in hating.''

Daevaorn: /* Konos as Ktenos / -removed-, this doesn't make sense at all as /Ktenos*/ (pronouns) -replace- nouns, they don't shorten them, as that would turn them back into ksinos (verbs).

2023-09-30T18:22:19Z

Konos as Ktenos: -removed-, this doesn't make sense at all as Ktenos: (pronouns) -replace- nouns, they don't shorten them, as that would turn them back into ksinos (verbs).

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	''As most notable example: "Klyros" is not "processes of living", but "people".''		''As most notable example: "Klyros" is not "processes of living", but "people".''

	~~====Konos as Ktenos====~~
	Konos, known grammatically for the ''k'' prefix, sometimes become burdensome to repeat. For this reason, Konos can grammatically become Ktenos by removing the k prefix. This is done usually when it is obvious that the word is an object/person/place/idea, rather than an action. For example, in the statement ''ze wo ksiblim'' (I greet Brother), the ''k'' in ''ksiblim'' can be removed making the phrase ''ze wo siblim.'' This practice is avoided in official documents, but is very common everywhere else.

	===Kzanos (descriptive words)===		===Kzanos (descriptive words)===

Nightflyer0ne: /* History */

2018-11-27T19:53:10Z

History

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	And the last, third layer of Klyran emerged only few decades ago when number of enthusiasts began their efforts in restoring the language. As there were no native speakers left to the moment, the last layer, Modern Klyran, is definitely the closest one to the Common, especially in terms of grammar.		And the last, third layer of Klyran emerged only few decades ago when number of enthusiasts began their efforts in restoring the language. As there were no native speakers left to the moment, the last layer, Modern Klyran, is definitely the closest one to the Common, especially in terms of grammar.

	Number of factors enfueled the process of relearning the language by Klyros. Lack of farming lands for more and more growning population, rogue raids on roads resulting into problems with supply lines, natural disasters like [[Ojavedan ~~plague\|Ojaveda plague~~]] - all these problems that the Octarchy failed to solve effectively. The [[Octarchs\|Octarchy]] started to lose the trust and multicultural integration process not only stopped but even went in reverse direction. More and more people started looking answers for thier lives in ancient racial cultures including languages.		Number of factors enfueled the process of relearning the language by Klyros. Lack of farming lands for more and more growning population, rogue raids on roads resulting into problems with supply lines, natural disasters like the [[Ojavedan Plague]] - all these problems that the Octarchy failed to solve effectively. The [[Octarchs\|Octarchy]] started to lose the trust and multicultural integration process not only stopped but even went in reverse direction. More and more people started looking answers for thier lives in ancient racial cultures including languages.

	==See also==		==See also==

Loremipsum: /* History */

2013-09-27T06:01:53Z

History

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	And the last, third layer of Klyran emerged only few decades ago when number of enthusiasts began their efforts in restoring the language. As there were no native speakers left to the moment, the last layer, Modern Klyran, is definitely the closest one to the Common, especially in terms of grammar.		And the last, third layer of Klyran emerged only few decades ago when number of enthusiasts began their efforts in restoring the language. As there were no native speakers left to the moment, the last layer, Modern Klyran, is definitely the closest one to the Common, especially in terms of grammar.

	Number of factors enfueled the process of relearning the language by Klyros. Lack of farming lands for more and more growning population, rogue raids on roads resulting into problems with supply lines, natural disasters like Ojaveda plague - all these problems that the Octarchy failed to solve effectively. The Octarchy started to lose the trust and multicultural integration process not only stopped but even went in reverse direction. More and more people started looking answers for thier lives in ancient racial cultures including languages.		Number of factors enfueled the process of relearning the language by Klyros. Lack of farming lands for more and more growning population, rogue raids on roads resulting into problems with supply lines, natural disasters like [[Ojavedan plague\|Ojaveda plague]] - all these problems that the Octarchy failed to solve effectively. The [[Octarchs\|Octarchy]] started to lose the trust and multicultural integration process not only stopped but even went in reverse direction. More and more people started looking answers for thier lives in ancient racial cultures including languages.

	==See also==		==See also==

Daevaorn: /* Descriptive kzanos */ removing inconsistency: -sin- morphem already taken by "to do" / changing progressive form to -sen instead

2013-01-17T23:20:47Z

Descriptive kzanos: removing inconsistency: -sin- morphem already taken by "to do" / changing progressive form to -sen instead

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	can be following suffix for subclass specification.<br>		can be following suffix for subclass specification.<br>
	Possible suffixes:		Possible suffixes:
	#"-~~sin~~" is roughly equal to "-ing" ending in Common, that ~~makes a participle out of verb~~. ''For example "lim" is "to fly", "~~klesin~~" is "leader" so "~~zanlimsin lesin~~" is "flying leader".''		#"-sen" is roughly equal to "-ing" ending in Common, expressing that something is in process or on-going. ''For example "lim" is "to fly", "kle" is "leader" so "zanlimsen kle" is the "flying leader" while "kle limsen" means "the leader is flying".''
	#"-san" is roughly equaly to "ed" ending in Common. ''For example "nyar" is to kill, "zannyarsan klesin" is "killed leader"''		#"-san" is roughly equaly to "ed" ending in Common. ''For example "nyar" is to kill, "zannyarsan klesin" is "killed leader"''
	#"-~~iimsin~~" means capable of doing the core ksin. ''For example "lim" is to fly, "zanlimiimsin klyr" is "klyros, that is able to fly"''		#"-iim" means capable of doing the core ksin. ''For example "lim" is to fly, "zanlimiimsin klyr" is "klyros, that is able to fly"''
	#"-iimsan" means capable of ~~receive~~ the core ksin. ''For example "der" is to heal, "zanderiimsan klyr" is "klyros, that can be healed"''		#"-iimsan" means capable of undergoing the core ksin, comparable to the Common suffix "-able". ''For example "der" is to heal, "zanderiimsan klyr" is "klyros, that can be healed"''
	#"-sot" is roughly equal to "-ful" in Common.		#"-sot" is roughly equal to "-ful" in Common, expressing the notions of 'plenty' or 'rich in'.

	===Kefaos (logic words)===		===Kefaos (logic words)===

Daevaorn: /* Descriptive kzanos */ stringent use of "iim" instead of "can"

2013-01-17T19:47:10Z

Descriptive kzanos: stringent use of "iim" instead of "can"

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	#"-sin" is roughly equal to "-ing" ending in Common, that makes a participle out of verb. ''For example "lim" is "to fly", "klesin" is "leader" so "zanlimsin lesin" is "flying leader".''		#"-sin" is roughly equal to "-ing" ending in Common, that makes a participle out of verb. ''For example "lim" is "to fly", "klesin" is "leader" so "zanlimsin lesin" is "flying leader".''
	#"-san" is roughly equaly to "ed" ending in Common. ''For example "nyar" is to kill, "zannyarsan klesin" is "killed leader"''		#"-san" is roughly equaly to "ed" ending in Common. ''For example "nyar" is to kill, "zannyarsan klesin" is "killed leader"''
	#"-~~cansin~~" means capable of doing the core ksin. ''For example "lim" is to fly, "~~zanlimcansin~~ klyr" is "klyros, that is able to fly"''		#"-iimsin" means capable of doing the core ksin. ''For example "lim" is to fly, "zanlimiimsin klyr" is "klyros, that is able to fly"''
	#"-~~cansan~~" means capable of receive the core ksin. ''For example "der" is to heal, "~~zandercansan~~ klyr" is "klyros, that can be healed"''		#"-iimsan" means capable of receive the core ksin. ''For example "der" is to heal, "zanderiimsan klyr" is "klyros, that can be healed"''
	#"-sot" is roughly equal to "-ful" in Common.		#"-sot" is roughly equal to "-ful" in Common.

Boeven: /* Grammatical tenses */

2011-05-30T22:29:30Z

Grammatical tenses

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	===Grammatical tenses===		===Grammatical tenses===
	Klyran doesn't have ~~continious~~ or perfect aspects at all. Continuous aspect is just removed. Perfect aspect is roughly equal to moving to past tense.		Klyran doesn't have continuous or perfect aspects at all. Continuous aspect is just removed. Perfect aspect is roughly equal to moving to past tense.

	So for Klyran there are 3 tenses: past (suffix "-far" is used), present (no temporal indication suffix) and future ("-ga" suffix).		So for Klyran there are 3 tenses: past (suffix "-far" is used), present (no temporal indication suffix) and future ("-ga" suffix).

Boeven: /* Descriptor precedence */

2011-05-30T22:25:16Z

Descriptor precedence

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	==Descriptor precedence==		==Descriptor precedence==
	Since Klyros is a highly agglutinative language, it is important to know what the correct precedence of the descriptors in word is:		Since Klyros is a highly agglutinative language, it is important to know what the correct precedence of the descriptors in word is:
	#possible honoring or ~~dishonoting~~ prefix and after that, maybe, optional prefix-connecting ideogram		#possible honoring or dishonoring prefix and after that, maybe, optional prefix-connecting ideogram
	#word class descriptor		#word class descriptor
	#the root of the word		#the root of the word
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	#mood descriptor		#mood descriptor
	#other suffixes		#other suffixes
	#possible honoring or ~~dishonoting~~ suffix and before that, maybe, optional suffix-connecting ideogram		#possible honoring or dishonoring suffix and before that, maybe, optional suffix-connecting ideogram

	In compound words there can be of course descriptors to each of the composed ksinos.		In compound words there can be of course descriptors to each of the composed ksinos.

Boeven: /* Descriptive kzanos */

2011-05-30T22:01:03Z

Descriptive kzanos

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	#"-san" is roughly equaly to "ed" ending in Common. ''For example "nyar" is to kill, "zannyarsan klesin" is "killed leader"''		#"-san" is roughly equaly to "ed" ending in Common. ''For example "nyar" is to kill, "zannyarsan klesin" is "killed leader"''
	#"-cansin" means capable of doing the core ksin. ''For example "lim" is to fly, "zanlimcansin klyr" is "klyros, that is able to fly"''		#"-cansin" means capable of doing the core ksin. ''For example "lim" is to fly, "zanlimcansin klyr" is "klyros, that is able to fly"''
	#"-cansan" means capable of ~~doing~~ the core ksin. ''For example "der" is to heal, "zandercansan klyr" is "klyros, that can be healed"''		#"-cansan" means capable of receive the core ksin. ''For example "der" is to heal, "zandercansan klyr" is "klyros, that can be healed"''
	#"-sot" is roughly equal to "-ful" in Common.		#"-sot" is roughly equal to "-ful" in Common.