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Players Guide/Combat

2006-10-03T22:37:30Z

Geri: /* Combat */ created page, transferred contents from Chapter 2

=[[Installation]]=

The first chapter deals with game requirements, account creation, installation and so on.

=[[Player_Guide | Player Guide]]=

== [[Character Creation]] ==

== [[First Connection]] ==

== [[Interface]] ==

==[[Buying, Selling & Trading]]==

==[[Character Statistics]]==

==Combat==

===Initiating Combat===

There are four basic ways that you can find yourself in a combat situation.

Firstly, you may be attacked outright by an aggressive monster. In this case you can choose to stand and fight or run away. To fight, you must right-click on the monster and click the [[Players_Guide_Chapter_2#Action_Menu| Attack]] icon.

Secondly, you may choose to attack an unwitting monster. To initiate combat, you must again right-click on the monster and click the [[Players_Guide_Chapter_2#Action_Menu| Attack]] icon.

Thirdly, you may be challenged to a duel by another player. If you are challenged, you will see a window appear that allows you to either accept or decline the challenge. Once the duel has begun, you will need to target the other player and attack them in the same way you would attack a monster. If your guild and your opponent's guild are at war, no challenge will be necessary for them to attack you!

Lastly, you may wish to attack another player. Unless your guild and your target's guild are at war, you will need to challenge them to a duel. To challenge, use the command '''/challenge''' when you have your opponent targetted. You will be notified once they have accepted or declined. If they accept then the fight is on!

===Stance===

During combat, attacker and victim can change their combat stance, focusing more on attack or on defense. There are five possible combat stances:

'''Bloody'''

: In bloody attack the player focuses all his or her ability on attacking. All blocking, movement and dodging ability gets transferred to attack.

'''Aggressive'''

: In aggressive attack the player focuses his ability more on attacking then defending. His or her blocking ability gets transferred to attack as well as some of movement and dodging ability.

'''Normal'''

: This is the standard, default attack. Attack and defense are as per [[Players_Guide_Chapter_2#Skills_2| skills]] and [[Players_Guide_Chapter_2#Character_Statistics|stats]].

'''Defensive'''

: In defensive attack the player focuses his or her ability more on defending than attacking. Attacking ability gets transferred to blocking, along with some movement and agility.

'''Full Defensive'''

: In full defense the player focuses all his or her ability on defending. All attacking ability, movement and agility is transferred to blocking and avoiding attacks.

You can change your attack stance using the '''/attack''' command. You can specify the stance using '''/attack 1''' (Bloody) up to '''/attack 5''' (Full Defensive). You can change your stance anytime during combat.

===Death===

In the world of [[Players_Guide_Chapter_3#Yliakum| Yliakum]], death is not the end.

When you die through mishap or attack you will reappear in the [[Players_Guide_Chapter_3#Death_Realm| Death Realm]].

===Combat Example===

In this section we will guide you through a possible encounter with a Rat.

Pictured below is our first encounter with a Rat. Be careful though - the Rat will notice your presence and attack!

<center>[[Image:rat.jpg]]</center>

The first thing to do is right-click on the Rat with your mouse, and then choose '''Attack''' from the action menu when it appears:

<center>[[Image:combat2.jpg]]</center>

Now the fight is on! Keep a careful eye on your health and your opponent's health always. if your health gets too low, you will need to heal or run away!

Finally we have killed the Rat. Now we can [[Players_Guide_Chapter_2#Looting| loot]] the corpse. By looting the corpses of monsters that you kill, you can acquire items to sell or trade for money with which you can purchase equipment.

===Looting===

To loot a corpse, right click on it and when the action menu appears, choose '''Loot'''.

<center>[[Image:looting1.jpg]]</center>

A window will appear displaying the items that can be looted from the corpse. Take whichever items you want and then you can close the window.

<center>[[Image:looting2.jpg]]</center>

Use the right button to take specific items and the left button to randomly distribute the loot among your [[Glossary#Group| ''Group'']].

You cannot loot a corpse that was not killed by yourself or a member of your [[Glossary#Group| ''Group'']].

Bear in mind that eventually the corpse will disappear from the world, and the monster may reappear. You will need to loot the corpse before that happens.

Talk:Players Guide Chapter 1

2006-10-03T21:58:44Z

Geri: /* Renaming Chapter I. from "Installation" to "Installation and Configuration" or "Installation and Setup"? */

__FORCETOC__

== Consolidating OS dependent text ==

There is a lot of redundant text in this page. Each subheading for the different operating systems had almost identical text, with only a slight variation (commands to use). Does anyone agree that it would be clearer if each sub-heading was re-written to be a general account, and '''only''' the OS variances separated out in a sub-sub-heading?

--[[User:Jonmack|jonmack]]

Probably a good idea.
Maybe you should edit the section on a different page, change it along your ideas and then we all have a look at it and compare with the old layout. If the new layout is generally accepted we can either reditect or copy the content over the old page and delete the work-page again.

--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 09:59, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Basically a good idea. But, imagine the following (theoretically, I didn't check whether this can happen with the current contents):

1. General

* Do command A... 
* Do command C... 
* Do command E... 

1.1 '''W'''in

* Do command B-'''W'''... 
* Do command D-'''W'''... 

1.2 '''M'''ac

* Do command B-'''M'''... 
* Do command D-'''M'''... 

1.2 '''U'''nix

* Do command B-'''U'''... 
*Do command D-'''U'''... 

--> Not very straightforward, compared to the actual activity.

An option:

1. General

* Do command A... 
* <links to B-W, B-M, B-U> 
* Do command C... 
* <links to D-W, D-M, D-U> 
* Do command E... 

1.1 '''W'''in

* <link to A> 
* Do command B-'''W'''... 
* <link to C> 
* Do command D-'''W'''... 
* <link to E> 

...and so on...

--> Still not straightforward, but with quicker jumping at least.

However, both could be too sophisticated for the "normal" user. Maybe even worse if not all OSs need the same type of commands.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 14:51, 28 September 2006 (EDT)

As far as i know most of what is done in one OS is done almost the same in the others when it comes to set up and updating (commands to get to them might change)

--illori

== Hints ==
* 1. "Chaptering" with automatic TOC works in the discussion as well
* 2. It's good wiki style to sign discussion contributions with two hyphens followed by four tildes:<nowiki> --~~~ </nowiki>. This automatically adds your user name, or your IP if you're not loggged in, and date & time.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 05:12, 29 September 2006 (EDT)

== Renaming Chapter I. from "Installation" to "Installation and Configuration" or "Installation and Setup"? ==

Since this is what it actually contains.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 15:56, 1 October 2006 (EDT)

I think it's a good idea to rename the chapters from counters like [[Players_Guide_Chapter_1]] to their actual name (in this case " Installation"). I don't see a reason for the current titles as the numbers are given in the TOC.
Suggestions? --[[User:Kerol|Kerol]] 07:54, 2 October 2006 (EDT)

Agreed, good idea! (Is there a wiki-wide update-link-when-link-target-changes-function? )

I also recommend to omit the big fat headings with links to the other chapters. A separate "Related Links" chapter looks much nicer.

Another suggestions: Transforming the main chapters (I. - VI., App. A, B) into categories and divide the LONG pages into several pages, so that one sub-chapter at 2nd level (e.g. 1.1) equals 1 page belonging to the appropriate category.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 12:47, 3 October 2006 (EDT)

Geri We are working on dividing the pages as you said look at what we have so far for [[Players_Guide_Chapter_2]]

--illori 13:57, 3 October 2006 (EDT)

I see! That's what came into my mind, too: Transforming the main chapters into link pages to sub-chapters. Perfect! So, I think it will be OK if I transfer Combat, Magic, NPCs, Cheating to their own pages.

And: Does this apply to the other main chapters as well?

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 17:54, 3 October 2006 (EDT)

Talk:Players Guide Chapter 1

2006-10-03T21:54:22Z

Geri: /* Renaming Chapter I. from "Installation" to "Installation and Configuration" or "Installation and Setup"? */

Talk:Players Guide Chapter 1

2006-10-03T16:56:16Z

Geri: /* Consolidating OS dependent text */

Talk:Players Guide Chapter 1

2006-10-03T16:55:13Z

Geri: /* Renaming Chapter I. from "Installation" to "Installation and Configuration" or "Installation and Setup"? */

__FORCETOC__

== Consolidating OS dependent text ==

There is a lot of redundant text in this page. Each subheading for the different operating systems had almost identical text, with only a slight variation (commands to use). Does anyone agree that it would be clearer if each sub-heading was re-written to be a general account, and '''only''' the OS variances separated out in a sub-sub-heading?

--[[User:Jonmack|jonmack]]

Probably a good idea.
Maybe you should edit the section on a different page, change it along your ideas and then we all have a look at it and compare with the old layout. If the new layout is generally accepted we can either reditect or copy the content over the old page and delete the work-page again.

--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 09:59, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Basically a good idea. But, imagine the following (theoretically, I didn't check whether this can happen with the current contents):

1. General

* Do command A... 
* Do command C... 
* Do command E... 

1.1 '''W'''in

* Do command B-'''W'''... 
* Do command D-'''W'''... 

1.2 '''M'''ac

* Do command B-'''M'''... 
* Do command D-'''M'''... 

1.2 '''U'''nix

* Do command B-'''U'''... 
*Do command D-'''U'''... 

--> Not very straightforward, compared to the actual activity.

An option:

1. General

* Do command A... 
* <links to B-W, B-M, B-U> 
* Do command C... 
* <links to D-W, D-M, D-U> 
* Do command E... 

1.1 '''W'''in

* <link to A> 
* Do command B-'''W'''... 
* <link to C> 
* Do command D-'''W'''... 
* <link to E> 

...and so on...

--> Still not straightforward, but with quicker jumping at least.

However, both could be too sophisticated for the "normal" user. Maybe even worse if not all OSs need the same type of commands.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 14:51, 28 September 2006 (EDT)

As far as i know most of what is done in one OS is done almost the same in the others when it comes to set up and updating (commands to get to them might change)

--illori

Hints:
* 1. "Chaptering" with automatic TOC works in the discussion as well
* 2. It's good wiki style to sign discussion contributions with two hyphens followed by four tildes:<nowiki> --~~~ </nowiki>. This automatically adds your user name, or your IP if you're not loggged in, and date & time.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 05:12, 29 September 2006 (EDT)

== Renaming Chapter I. from "Installation" to "Installation and Configuration" or "Installation and Setup"? ==

Since this is what it actually contains.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 15:56, 1 October 2006 (EDT)

I think it's a good idea to rename the chapters from counters like [[Players_Guide_Chapter_1]] to their actual name (in this case " Installation"). I don't see a reason for the current titles as the numbers are given in the TOC.
Suggestions? --[[User:Kerol|Kerol]] 07:54, 2 October 2006 (EDT)

Agreed, good idea! (Is there a wiki-wide update-link-when-link-target-changes-function? )

I also recommend to omit the big fat headings with links to the other chapters. A separate "Related Links" chapter looks much nicer.

Another suggestions: Transforming the main chapters (I. - VI., App. A, B) into categories and divide the LONG pages into several pages, so that one sub-chapter at 2nd level (e.g. 1.1) equals 1 page belonging to the appropriate category.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 12:47, 3 October 2006 (EDT)

Talk:Players Guide Chapter 1

2006-10-03T16:47:33Z

Geri: /* Renaming Chapter I. from "Installation" to "Installation and Configuration" or "Installation and Setup"? */

__FORCETOC__

== Consolidating OS dependent text ==

There is a lot of redundant text in this page. Each subheading for the different operating systems had almost identical text, with only a slight variation (commands to use). Does anyone agree that it would be clearer if each sub-heading was re-written to be a general account, and '''only''' the OS variances separated out in a sub-sub-heading?

--[[User:Jonmack|jonmack]]

Probably a good idea.
Maybe you should edit the section on a different page, change it along your ideas and then we all have a look at it and compare with the old layout. If the new layout is generally accepted we can either reditect or copy the content over the old page and delete the work-page again.

--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 09:59, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Basically a good idea. But, imagine the following (theoretically, I didn't check whether this can happen with the current contents):

1. General

* Do command A... 
* Do command C... 
* Do command E... 

1.1 '''W'''in

* Do command B-'''W'''... 
* Do command D-'''W'''... 

1.2 '''M'''ac

* Do command B-'''M'''... 
* Do command D-'''M'''... 

1.2 '''U'''nix

* Do command B-'''U'''... 
*Do command D-'''U'''... 

--> Not very straightforward, compared to the actual activity.

An option:

1. General

* Do command A... 
* <links to B-W, B-M, B-U> 
* Do command C... 
* <links to D-W, D-M, D-U> 
* Do command E... 

1.1 '''W'''in

* <link to A> 
* Do command B-'''W'''... 
* <link to C> 
* Do command D-'''W'''... 
* <link to E> 

...and so on...

--> Still not straightforward, but with quicker jumping at least.

However, both could be too sophisticated for the "normal" user. Maybe even worse if not all OSs need the same type of commands.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 14:51, 28 September 2006 (EDT)

As far as i know most of what is done in one OS is done almost the same in the others when it comes to set up and updating (commands to get to them might change)

--illori

Hints:
* 1. "Chaptering" with automatic TOC works in the discussion as well
* 2. It's good wiki style to sign discussion contributions with two hyphens followed by four tildes:<nowiki> --~~~ </nowiki>. This automatically adds your user name, or your IP if you're not loggged in, and date & time.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 05:12, 29 September 2006 (EDT)

== Renaming Chapter I. from "Installation" to "Installation and Configuration" or "Installation and Setup"? ==

Since this is what it actually contains.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 15:56, 1 October 2006 (EDT)

I think it's a good idea to rename the chapters from counters like [[Players_Guide_Chapter_1]] to their actual name (in this case " Installation"). I don't see a reason for the current titles as the numbers are given in the TOC.
Suggestions? --[[User:Kerol|Kerol]] 07:54, 2 October 2006 (EDT)

Agreed, good idea! (Is there a wiki-wide update-link-when-link-target-changes-function? )

I also recommend to omit the big fat headings with links to the other chapters. A separate "Related Links" chapter looks much nicer.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 12:47, 3 October 2006 (EDT)

Talk:Ingame Help

2006-10-03T16:34:05Z

Geri: /* Ingame Help as XML */

== Ingame Help as XML ==

By quoting Kerol:

Revision as of 00:58, 24 September 2006
Kerol (Talk | contribs)
(THE INGAME HELP NEEDS TO BE ONE FILE!)

--[[User:Ralleyon|Ralleyon]] 04:47, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Kerol, could you please explain logically, why this should be as you demand.

I believe its better to maintain those sections with different topics on different "files" (well, they are really just database entries). That way you keep a certain overview when you dont melt all those different topics together. Long pages tend to be read less careful for example.

If you want to export everything to obtain a neat XML file afterwards, which can then be fed into the client releases, why dont you just use scripts that do the job for you, or maybe ingame help XML files could be split as well ..

just my opinion, discussion welcome!

--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 05:17, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

I agree to Fellice. One page for each chapter makes some pages (Ch.I., Ch.II. & Ch.III.) too long, which is not good wiki style and not too user-friendly.

Concerning the XML topic, maybe this helps, too: ''Note that it is possible to obtain XML-formatted output from MySQL'' [http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/xml-functions.html]

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 12:12, 3 October 2006 (EDT)

== Keyboard Controls not up to date ==

Keyboard Controls seem to be not up to date!

* Strafing is not Q/E but A/D - at least in my client's default keyboard control settings. I did not change any of them! Maybe someone can confirm?

* Autorun has an additional feature, when pressing Shift-R the character walks instead of running. It also switches into Walk mode after ''releasing'' any "shift" key while in autorun mode, but there is no way to switch back to running again, other than hitting "R" twice. Maybe this is a bug, i will report it to the [http://bugs.hydlaa.com Plaeshift Bugtracker] right now (in case it isnt already to be found there) ...

--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 05:34, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Regarding the keyboard controls - they have changed with the new release, yes. It is not a bug, the Player Guide on the official page was not updated accordingly after the changes (due to lack of time perhaps). And since the pages in the wiki were taken from there, they are also out-of-date (for now at least). As a matter of fact this is one of the main purposes of this wiki, besides adding and correcting mistakes - to actually update the existing documentation as a community effort.

As for the help page needing to be in one place, I don't know the reasons, but I suppose that the team may want to transform it automatically with the help of a script into something that can be put both in-game and in the official Help page on planeshift.it. But from what I remember, the commands there are pretty thorough and I was under the impression they were automatically generated from the programmers' comments. Might be wrong though.

Just my two cents on the matter.

--[[User:Ralleyon|Ralleyon]] 03:09, 25 September 2006 (EDT)

== Ingame Help vs. Player Commands ==

Are you aware of that [[Ingame Help]] is almost identical to [[Player Commands]]? To be more precise: [[Player Commands]] is a subset of [[Ingame Help]].

'''Keyboard Controls''' and '''Other User Command /repair''' is the difference, as far as I can see. I think the first is intentionally, the latter seems to me like one of the things that can happen if you store identical information more than once.

I think the best solution is to <nowiki>#REDIRECT</nowiki> [[Player Commands]] to [[Ingame_Help#Player_Commands]].

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 12:04, 3 October 2006 (EDT)

Talk:Ingame Help

2006-10-03T16:27:45Z

Geri: /* Ingame Help as XML */

== Ingame Help as XML ==

By quoting Kerol:

Revision as of 00:58, 24 September 2006
Kerol (Talk | contribs)
(THE INGAME HELP NEEDS TO BE ONE FILE!)

--[[User:Ralleyon|Ralleyon]] 04:47, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Kerol, could you please explain logically, why this should be as you demand.

I believe its better to maintain those sections with different topics on different "files" (well, they are really just database entries). That way you keep a certain overview when you dont melt all those different topics together. Long pages tend to be read less careful for example.

If you want to export everything to obtain a neat XML file afterwards, which can then be fed into the client releases, why dont you just use scripts that do the job for you, or maybe ingame help XML files could be split as well ..

just my opinion, discussion welcome!

--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 05:17, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

I agree to Fellice. One page for each chapter makes some pages (Ch.I., Ch.II. & Ch.III.) too long, which is not good wiki style and not too user-friendly.

Concerning the XML topic, maybe this helps, too: ''Note that it is possible to obtain XML-formatted output from MySQL'' (
[http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/xml-functions.html])

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 12:12, 3 October 2006 (EDT)

== Keyboard Controls not up to date ==

Keyboard Controls seem to be not up to date!

* Strafing is not Q/E but A/D - at least in my client's default keyboard control settings. I did not change any of them! Maybe someone can confirm?

* Autorun has an additional feature, when pressing Shift-R the character walks instead of running. It also switches into Walk mode after ''releasing'' any "shift" key while in autorun mode, but there is no way to switch back to running again, other than hitting "R" twice. Maybe this is a bug, i will report it to the [http://bugs.hydlaa.com Plaeshift Bugtracker] right now (in case it isnt already to be found there) ...

--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 05:34, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Regarding the keyboard controls - they have changed with the new release, yes. It is not a bug, the Player Guide on the official page was not updated accordingly after the changes (due to lack of time perhaps). And since the pages in the wiki were taken from there, they are also out-of-date (for now at least). As a matter of fact this is one of the main purposes of this wiki, besides adding and correcting mistakes - to actually update the existing documentation as a community effort.

As for the help page needing to be in one place, I don't know the reasons, but I suppose that the team may want to transform it automatically with the help of a script into something that can be put both in-game and in the official Help page on planeshift.it. But from what I remember, the commands there are pretty thorough and I was under the impression they were automatically generated from the programmers' comments. Might be wrong though.

Just my two cents on the matter.

--[[User:Ralleyon|Ralleyon]] 03:09, 25 September 2006 (EDT)

== Ingame Help vs. Player Commands ==

Are you aware of that [[Ingame Help]] is almost identical to [[Player Commands]]? To be more precise: [[Player Commands]] is a subset of [[Ingame Help]].

'''Keyboard Controls''' and '''Other User Command /repair''' is the difference, as far as I can see. I think the first is intentionally, the latter seems to me like one of the things that can happen if you store identical information more than once.

I think the best solution is to <nowiki>#REDIRECT</nowiki> [[Player Commands]] to [[Ingame_Help#Player_Commands]].

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 12:04, 3 October 2006 (EDT)

Talk:Ingame Help

2006-10-03T16:12:46Z

Geri: /* Ingame Help as XML */

== Ingame Help as XML ==

By quoting Kerol:

Revision as of 00:58, 24 September 2006
Kerol (Talk | contribs)
(THE INGAME HELP NEEDS TO BE ONE FILE!)

--[[User:Ralleyon|Ralleyon]] 04:47, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Kerol, could you please explain logically, why this should be as you demand.

I believe its better to maintain those sections with different topics on different "files" (well, they are really just database entries). That way you keep a certain overview when you dont melt all those different topics together. Long pages tend to be read less careful for example.

If you want to export everything to obtain a neat XML file afterwards, which can then be fed into the client releases, why dont you just use scripts that do the job for you, or maybe ingame help XML files could be split as well ..

just my opinion, discussion welcome!

--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 05:17, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

I agree to Fellice. One page for each chapter makes some pages (Ch.I., Ch.II. & Ch.III.) too long, which is not good wiki style and not too user-friendly.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 12:12, 3 October 2006 (EDT)

== Keyboard Controls not up to date ==

Keyboard Controls seem to be not up to date!

* Strafing is not Q/E but A/D - at least in my client's default keyboard control settings. I did not change any of them! Maybe someone can confirm?

* Autorun has an additional feature, when pressing Shift-R the character walks instead of running. It also switches into Walk mode after ''releasing'' any "shift" key while in autorun mode, but there is no way to switch back to running again, other than hitting "R" twice. Maybe this is a bug, i will report it to the [http://bugs.hydlaa.com Plaeshift Bugtracker] right now (in case it isnt already to be found there) ...

--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 05:34, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Regarding the keyboard controls - they have changed with the new release, yes. It is not a bug, the Player Guide on the official page was not updated accordingly after the changes (due to lack of time perhaps). And since the pages in the wiki were taken from there, they are also out-of-date (for now at least). As a matter of fact this is one of the main purposes of this wiki, besides adding and correcting mistakes - to actually update the existing documentation as a community effort.

As for the help page needing to be in one place, I don't know the reasons, but I suppose that the team may want to transform it automatically with the help of a script into something that can be put both in-game and in the official Help page on planeshift.it. But from what I remember, the commands there are pretty thorough and I was under the impression they were automatically generated from the programmers' comments. Might be wrong though.

Just my two cents on the matter.

--[[User:Ralleyon|Ralleyon]] 03:09, 25 September 2006 (EDT)

== Ingame Help vs. Player Commands ==

Are you aware of that [[Ingame Help]] is almost identical to [[Player Commands]]? To be more precise: [[Player Commands]] is a subset of [[Ingame Help]].

'''Keyboard Controls''' and '''Other User Command /repair''' is the difference, as far as I can see. I think the first is intentionally, the latter seems to me like one of the things that can happen if you store identical information more than once.

I think the best solution is to <nowiki>#REDIRECT</nowiki> [[Player Commands]] to [[Ingame_Help#Player_Commands]].

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 12:04, 3 October 2006 (EDT)

Talk:Ingame Help

2006-10-03T16:12:10Z

Geri: /* Ingame Help as XML */

== Ingame Help as XML ==

By quoting Kerol:

Revision as of 00:58, 24 September 2006
Kerol (Talk | contribs)
(THE INGAME HELP NEEDS TO BE ONE FILE!)

--[[User:Ralleyon|Ralleyon]] 04:47, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Kerol, could you please explain logically, why this should be as you demand.

I believe its better to maintain those sections with different topics on different "files" (well, they are really just database entries). That way you keep a certain overview when you dont melt all those different topics together. Long pages tend to be read less careful for example.

If you want to export everything to obtain a neat XML file afterwards, which can then be fed into the client releases, why dont you just use scripts that do the job for you, or maybe ingame help XML files could be split as well ..

just my opinion, discussion welcome!

--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 05:17, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

I agree to Fellice. One page for each chapter makes some pages (Ch.I., Ch.II. & Ch.III.) too long, which is not good wiki style and not too user-friendly.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 12:12, 3 October 2006 (EDT)

== Keyboard Controls not up to date ==

Keyboard Controls seem to be not up to date!

* Strafing is not Q/E but A/D - at least in my client's default keyboard control settings. I did not change any of them! Maybe someone can confirm?

* Autorun has an additional feature, when pressing Shift-R the character walks instead of running. It also switches into Walk mode after ''releasing'' any "shift" key while in autorun mode, but there is no way to switch back to running again, other than hitting "R" twice. Maybe this is a bug, i will report it to the [http://bugs.hydlaa.com Plaeshift Bugtracker] right now (in case it isnt already to be found there) ...

--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 05:34, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Regarding the keyboard controls - they have changed with the new release, yes. It is not a bug, the Player Guide on the official page was not updated accordingly after the changes (due to lack of time perhaps). And since the pages in the wiki were taken from there, they are also out-of-date (for now at least). As a matter of fact this is one of the main purposes of this wiki, besides adding and correcting mistakes - to actually update the existing documentation as a community effort.

As for the help page needing to be in one place, I don't know the reasons, but I suppose that the team may want to transform it automatically with the help of a script into something that can be put both in-game and in the official Help page on planeshift.it. But from what I remember, the commands there are pretty thorough and I was under the impression they were automatically generated from the programmers' comments. Might be wrong though.

Just my two cents on the matter.

--[[User:Ralleyon|Ralleyon]] 03:09, 25 September 2006 (EDT)

== Ingame Help vs. Player Commands ==

Are you aware of that [[Ingame Help]] is almost identical to [[Player Commands]]? To be more precise: [[Player Commands]] is a subset of [[Ingame Help]].

'''Keyboard Controls''' and '''Other User Command /repair''' is the difference, as far as I can see. I think the first is intentionally, the latter seems to me like one of the things that can happen if you store identical information more than once.

I think the best solution is to <nowiki>#REDIRECT</nowiki> [[Player Commands]] to [[Ingame_Help#Player_Commands]].

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 12:04, 3 October 2006 (EDT)

Talk:Ingame Help

2006-10-03T16:05:25Z

Geri: /* Ingame Help vs. Player Commands */

== Ingame Help as XML ==

By quoting Kerol:

Revision as of 00:58, 24 September 2006
Kerol (Talk | contribs)
(THE INGAME HELP NEEDS TO BE ONE FILE!)

--[[User:Ralleyon|Ralleyon]] 04:47, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Kerol, could you please explain logically, why this should be as you demand.

I believe its better to maintain those sections with different topics on different "files" (well, they are really just database entries). That way you keep a certain overview when you dont melt all those different topics together. Long pages tend to be read less careful for example.

If you want to export everything to obtain a neat XML file afterwards, which can then be fed into the client releases, why dont you just use scripts that do the job for you, or maybe ingame help XML files could be split as well ..

just my opinion, discussion welcome!

--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 05:17, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

== Keyboard Controls not up to date ==

Keyboard Controls seem to be not up to date!

* Strafing is not Q/E but A/D - at least in my client's default keyboard control settings. I did not change any of them! Maybe someone can confirm?

* Autorun has an additional feature, when pressing Shift-R the character walks instead of running. It also switches into Walk mode after ''releasing'' any "shift" key while in autorun mode, but there is no way to switch back to running again, other than hitting "R" twice. Maybe this is a bug, i will report it to the [http://bugs.hydlaa.com Plaeshift Bugtracker] right now (in case it isnt already to be found there) ...

--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 05:34, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Regarding the keyboard controls - they have changed with the new release, yes. It is not a bug, the Player Guide on the official page was not updated accordingly after the changes (due to lack of time perhaps). And since the pages in the wiki were taken from there, they are also out-of-date (for now at least). As a matter of fact this is one of the main purposes of this wiki, besides adding and correcting mistakes - to actually update the existing documentation as a community effort.

As for the help page needing to be in one place, I don't know the reasons, but I suppose that the team may want to transform it automatically with the help of a script into something that can be put both in-game and in the official Help page on planeshift.it. But from what I remember, the commands there are pretty thorough and I was under the impression they were automatically generated from the programmers' comments. Might be wrong though.

Just my two cents on the matter.

--[[User:Ralleyon|Ralleyon]] 03:09, 25 September 2006 (EDT)

== Ingame Help vs. Player Commands ==

Are you aware of that [[Ingame Help]] is almost identical to [[Player Commands]]? To be more precise: [[Player Commands]] is a subset of [[Ingame Help]].

'''Keyboard Controls''' and '''Other User Command /repair''' is the difference, as far as I can see. I think the first is intentionally, the latter seems to me like one of the things that can happen if you store identical information more than once.

I think the best solution is to <nowiki>#REDIRECT</nowiki> [[Player Commands]] to [[Ingame_Help#Player_Commands]].

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 12:04, 3 October 2006 (EDT)

Talk:Ingame Help

2006-10-03T16:04:12Z

Geri:

== Ingame Help as XML ==

By quoting Kerol:

Revision as of 00:58, 24 September 2006
Kerol (Talk | contribs)
(THE INGAME HELP NEEDS TO BE ONE FILE!)

--[[User:Ralleyon|Ralleyon]] 04:47, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Kerol, could you please explain logically, why this should be as you demand.

I believe its better to maintain those sections with different topics on different "files" (well, they are really just database entries). That way you keep a certain overview when you dont melt all those different topics together. Long pages tend to be read less careful for example.

If you want to export everything to obtain a neat XML file afterwards, which can then be fed into the client releases, why dont you just use scripts that do the job for you, or maybe ingame help XML files could be split as well ..

just my opinion, discussion welcome!

--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 05:17, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

== Keyboard Controls not up to date ==

Keyboard Controls seem to be not up to date!

* Strafing is not Q/E but A/D - at least in my client's default keyboard control settings. I did not change any of them! Maybe someone can confirm?

* Autorun has an additional feature, when pressing Shift-R the character walks instead of running. It also switches into Walk mode after ''releasing'' any "shift" key while in autorun mode, but there is no way to switch back to running again, other than hitting "R" twice. Maybe this is a bug, i will report it to the [http://bugs.hydlaa.com Plaeshift Bugtracker] right now (in case it isnt already to be found there) ...

--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 05:34, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Regarding the keyboard controls - they have changed with the new release, yes. It is not a bug, the Player Guide on the official page was not updated accordingly after the changes (due to lack of time perhaps). And since the pages in the wiki were taken from there, they are also out-of-date (for now at least). As a matter of fact this is one of the main purposes of this wiki, besides adding and correcting mistakes - to actually update the existing documentation as a community effort.

As for the help page needing to be in one place, I don't know the reasons, but I suppose that the team may want to transform it automatically with the help of a script into something that can be put both in-game and in the official Help page on planeshift.it. But from what I remember, the commands there are pretty thorough and I was under the impression they were automatically generated from the programmers' comments. Might be wrong though.

Just my two cents on the matter.

--[[User:Ralleyon|Ralleyon]] 03:09, 25 September 2006 (EDT)

== Ingame Help vs. Player Commands ==

Are you aware of that [[Ingame Help]] is almost identical to [[Player Commands]]? To be more precise: [[Player Commands]] is a subset of [[Ingame Help]].

'''Keyboard Controls''' and '''Other User Command /repair''' is the difference, as far as I have seen. I think the first is intentionally, the latter seems to me like one of the things that can happen if you store identical information more than once.

I think the best solution is to <nowiki>#REDIRECT</nowiki> [[Player Commands]] to [[Ingame_Help#Player_Commands]].

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 12:04, 3 October 2006 (EDT)

Acronym List

2006-10-03T15:37:17Z

Geri: changed table border style

''(Transcript of [http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23096.0 PlaneShift Acronym and Slang List])''

The purpose of this list is to teach people what common MMORPG and PS words mean, and how to use them. If you have any suggestions to add onto this list, please leave a message on the discussion page. Make sure you are suggesting only MMO and PS-related words! Things like “AFK,” “TY” or “TTFN” don't belong here, as they are regular internet acronyms.

{| summary="Acronyms" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" border="1"
!Acronym
!Description
|-
| AB
| The very first tech-demo, version 0.1, "Atomic Blue".
|-
| Aggro
| To lure a monster, to get its attention and make it attack.
|-
| AGI
| Agility. Attribute.
|-
| Alt
| A player's 'alternate' character or characters that they play when they are 'resting' their 'main' character or want to play something different.
|-
| Camp
| To sit in one place waiting for a particular monster or type of monster to spawn.
|-
| CB
| The current version of PlaneShift, "Crystal Blue". It is version 0.3.
|-
| CP
| Character Points that are used during the character creation process to build your toon. Everyone starts out with the same amount, but the different choices you make all have a different CP cost. Those choices influence the stats and skills your character will start out with once he or she is in the game.
|-
| CHA
| Charisma. Attribute.
|-
| Devs
| Developers. Members of Atomic Blue, the team building PlaneShift.
|-
| DR
| Death Realm. Where your character is taken when he or she dies.
|-
| END
| Endurance. Attribute.
|-
| Exp
| Experience Points. Representation of Character's advancement.
|-
| GM
| Game Master. These are in-game moderators and event organizers.
|-
| HP
| Hit Points. Representation of Character's health.
|-
| H&S
| Hack and Slash. Repetitive and long-lasting killing of various monsters.
|-
| IC
| In Character. Speech spoken as if it were your character in the world, not you sitting in front of a computer, to indicate you're behaving from your character's viewpoint.
|-
| INT
| Intelligence. Attribute.
|-
| Lag
| Latency experienced during play possibly because of Internet traffic and breakdowns, server-side problems and/or client-side problems.
|-
| KT/KS
| Kill theif/kill steal, when a player finishes off a monster that another player was attacking.
|-
| LD
| Linkdead. When the server crashes or you get disconnected from the game, we say it's gone Linkdead.
|-
| Loot
| Any items left on a mob after you kill it.
|-
| MB
| The previous version, 0.2. "Molecular Blue".
|-
| MMORPG
| Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game, like PlaneShift.
|-
| Mob
| Short for a "Mobile Object". Denotes a non-playable character that is attackable.
|-
| MP
| Mana Points. Like HP, but for a character's ability to cast spells.
|-
| mPK
| Monster player kill, when somebody "aggros" or lures a monster towards another player so that they are killed.
|-
| NPC
| Non-Player Characters you can interact with but are controlled by the game. They give quests, serve as merchants, etc.
|-
| OOC
| Out Of Character. Speech spoken as you, the player. OOC speech is often considered 'second priority' to IC speech, as it breaks the realism of the game world. It is courteous to use square brackets [ ] when you need to talk OOCly ingame.
|-
| PC
| Playable Character. Character controlled by a player.
|-
| PK
| Player Killing. Usually used in a negative circumstance, ie: not during PvP.
|-
| PL
| Power Leveling. Playing for the sole purpose of gaining character's attributes, maxing the stats, and often using the game's gaps to do it as fast as possible.
|-
| PP
| Progression Points. These are used for the theoretical learning of skills.
|-
| PS
| PlaneShift.
|-
| PvE
| Player versus environment. Fighting against a Mob.
|-
| PvP
| Player vs. Player. Fighting against another Player Character.
|-
| RP
| Role-Playing. Playing as though you ARE your character in actions and dialogue.
|-
| SB
| The next version of PlaneShift, in planning, “Steel Blue”. It will be version 0.4.
|-
| Spawns
| The process of mobs appearing when they are created in the world.
|-
| STA
| Stamina. Attribute.
|-
| STR
| Strength. Attribute.
|-
| Wibble
| PlaneShift's little mutation of “wb”, which means “welcome back”.
|-
| WIL
| Will. Attribute.
|-
| WTB
| "Want To Be" development team members. They work on the dev team just as "full" devs would and have access to everything the others have access to - the only major difference is that "full" developers are also members of Atomic Blue, the registered non-profit organization behind PlaneShift. After a period of dedication and contribution to the PS Team, the WTB can become Official members at discretion of the leader of that department
|-
|}

PSwiki:ToDo

2006-10-03T15:22:44Z

Geri: /* Forum Threads Needed */

'''Discussion about the ingame help stuff moved to [[Talk:ToDo]]'''

For a list of pages that are linked to, but do not yet exist, see [[Special:Wantedpages|Wanted Pages]].

*[[PvP|pvp]]
*[[Guild|guilds]]
*[[Chat_Window|Chat Window]]
*[[Out Of Character]]
*[[Chat_Channels|chat]]
*[[Players_Guide_Command_Reference|Command Reference]]
*[[Pterosaur|pterosaur]]
*[[PlaneShift_Review]] (need to add content to page)
*[[Players_Guide_Chapter_2#Crafting]] (definetely too short for an important feature)
*[[Players_Guide_Chapter_1]] (make like chapter 2)
*[[Players_Guide_Chapter_2]] (finish moving pages)
*[[Players_Guide_Chapter_3]] (make like chapter 2)
*[[Players_Guide_Chapter_4]] (make like chapter 2)
*[[Players_Guide_Chapter_5]] (make like chapter 2)
*[[Players_Guide_Chapter_6]] (make like chapter 2)
* Change all links when pages have been moved

[[Special:Imagelist | list of all images uploaded from players guide]]

[[Images]]

==Documents Needed==

The following documents from the official PS site need to be converted: (please add any more)

*http://www.planeshift.it/guide/en/reference.html {all links from this page need to be converted and all links to these pages need to be updated (mostly in ch 2)

[http://diberri.dyndns.org/wikipedia/html2wiki/index.html Conveter html to wiki]

==Forum Threads Needed==

The following forum threads would be nice additions to the wiki: (please add any more)



*http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=14312.0 (as [[Guild]] )

PSwiki:ToDo

2006-10-03T14:52:27Z

Geri: /* Forum Threads Needed */

'''Discussion about the ingame help stuff moved to [[Talk:ToDo]]'''

For a list of pages that are linked to, but do not yet exist, see [[Special:Wantedpages|Wanted Pages]].

*[[PvP|pvp]]
*[[Guild|guilds]]
*[[Chat_Window|Chat Window]]
*[[Out Of Character]]
*[[Chat_Channels|chat]]
*[[Players_Guide_Command_Reference|Command Reference]]
*[[Pterosaur|pterosaur]]
*[[PlaneShift_Review]] (need to add content to page)
*[[Players_Guide_Chapter_2#Crafting]] (definetely too short for an important feature)
*[[Players_Guide_Chapter_1]] (make like chapter 2)
*[[Players_Guide_Chapter_2]] (finish moving pages)
*[[Players_Guide_Chapter_3]] (make like chapter 2)
*[[Players_Guide_Chapter_4]] (make like chapter 2)
*[[Players_Guide_Chapter_5]] (make like chapter 2)
*[[Players_Guide_Chapter_6]] (make like chapter 2)
* Change all links when pages have been moved

[[Special:Imagelist | list of all images uploaded from players guide]]

[[Images]]

==Documents Needed==

The following documents from the official PS site need to be converted: (please add any more)

*http://www.planeshift.it/guide/en/reference.html {all links from this page need to be converted and all links to these pages need to be updated (mostly in ch 2)

[http://diberri.dyndns.org/wikipedia/html2wiki/index.html Conveter html to wiki]

==Forum Threads Needed==

The following forum threads would be nice additions to the wiki: (please add any more)

*http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=25012.0 (as [[Implemented Skills]] please)

*http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=14312.0 (as [[Guild]] )

Acronym List

2006-10-03T14:50:44Z

Geri: "...leave a msg...", table corrected

''(Transcript of [http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23096.0 PlaneShift Acronym and Slang List])''

The purpose of this list is to teach people what common MMORPG and PS words mean, and how to use them. If you have any suggestions to add onto this list, please leave a message on the discussion page. Make sure you are suggesting only MMO and PS-related words! Things like “AFK,” “TY” or “TTFN” don't belong here, as they are regular internet acronyms.

{| summary="Acronyms" border="1"
!Acronym
!Description
|-
| AB
| The very first tech-demo, version 0.1, "Atomic Blue".
|-
| Aggro
| To lure a monster, to get its attention and make it attack.
|-
| AGI
| Agility. Attribute.
|-
| Alt
| A player's 'alternate' character or characters that they play when they are 'resting' their 'main' character or want to play something different.
|-
| Camp
| To sit in one place waiting for a particular monster or type of monster to spawn.
|-
| CB
| The current version of PlaneShift, "Crystal Blue". It is version 0.3.
|-
| CP
| Character Points that are used during the character creation process to build your toon. Everyone starts out with the same amount, but the different choices you make all have a different CP cost. Those choices influence the stats and skills your character will start out with once he or she is in the game.
|-
| CHA
| Charisma. Attribute.
|-
| Devs
| Developers. Members of Atomic Blue, the team building PlaneShift.
|-
| DR
| Death Realm. Where your character is taken when he or she dies.
|-
| END
| Endurance. Attribute.
|-
| Exp
| Experience Points. Representation of Character's advancement.
|-
| GM
| Game Master. These are in-game moderators and event organizers.
|-
| HP
| Hit Points. Representation of Character's health.
|-
| H&S
| Hack and Slash. Repetitive and long-lasting killing of various monsters.
|-
| IC
| In Character. Speech spoken as if it were your character in the world, not you sitting in front of a computer, to indicate you're behaving from your character's viewpoint.
|-
| INT
| Intelligence. Attribute.
|-
| Lag
| Latency experienced during play possibly because of Internet traffic and breakdowns, server-side problems and/or client-side problems.
|-
| KT/KS
| Kill theif/kill steal, when a player finishes off a monster that another player was attacking.
|-
| LD
| Linkdead. When the server crashes or you get disconnected from the game, we say it's gone Linkdead.
|-
| Loot
| Any items left on a mob after you kill it.
|-
| MB
| The previous version, 0.2. "Molecular Blue".
|-
| MMORPG
| Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game, like PlaneShift.
|-
| Mob
| Short for a "Mobile Object". Denotes a non-playable character that is attackable.
|-
| MP
| Mana Points. Like HP, but for a character's ability to cast spells.
|-
| mPK
| Monster player kill, when somebody "aggros" or lures a monster towards another player so that they are killed.
|-
| NPC
| Non-Player Characters you can interact with but are controlled by the game. They give quests, serve as merchants, etc.
|-
| OOC
| Out Of Character. Speech spoken as you, the player. OOC speech is often considered 'second priority' to IC speech, as it breaks the realism of the game world. It is courteous to use square brackets [ ] when you need to talk OOCly ingame.
|-
| PC
| Playable Character. Character controlled by a player.
|-
| PK
| Player Killing. Usually used in a negative circumstance, ie: not during PvP.
|-
| PL
| Power Leveling. Playing for the sole purpose of gaining character's attributes, maxing the stats, and often using the game's gaps to do it as fast as possible.
|-
| PP
| Progression Points. These are used for the theoretical learning of skills.
|-
| PS
| PlaneShift.
|-
| PvE
| Player versus environment. Fighting against a Mob.
|-
| PvP
| Player vs. Player. Fighting against another Player Character.
|-
| RP
| Role-Playing. Playing as though you ARE your character in actions and dialogue.
|-
| SB
| The next version of PlaneShift, in planning, “Steel Blue”. It will be version 0.4.
|-
| Spawns
| The process of mobs appearing when they are created in the world.
|-
| STA
| Stamina. Attribute.
|-
| STR
| Strength. Attribute.
|-
| Wibble
| PlaneShift's little mutation of “wb”, which means “welcome back”.
|-
| WIL
| Will. Attribute.
|-
| WTB
| "Want To Be" development team members. They work on the dev team just as "full" devs would and have access to everything the others have access to - the only major difference is that "full" developers are also members of Atomic Blue, the registered non-profit organization behind PlaneShift. After a period of dedication and contribution to the PS Team, the WTB can become Official members at discretion of the leader of that department
|-
|}

User talk:Geri

2006-10-03T12:20:30Z

Geri:

Just wondering why you made the page [[chat]] it is not that usefull right now. and why did you make a category for commands? We are working on redoing a lot of the players guide and since none of us have seen on irc we dont know what you are thinking and you dont know what we are thinking. If you have time please stop off on the irc channel #planeshift-wiki to discuss this with us.

--illori 07:42, 2 October 2006 (EDT)

I created [[chat]] because a fully agree to what is mentioned in Kerol's Official PSWIKI thread:

"- Keep in mind that those docs should be understandable by 9 to 99 year old people - KISS (keep it simple and stupid)!"

According to my experiences it is simpler to find something if there are more paths leading to it.

I created the category "command" since I found it in the Special page: Wanted Categories. But, I agree: the two links referring to it may have been established unintentionally while drafting, making this category obsolete once.

What I'm thinking? I like PlaneShift. Not only the game, but also the idea behind. I like the Open Community and its spirit. I think it's only fair to pay back a bit, compared to the many helpful things I (we) received from the community until now. That's why I decided to contribute to this wiki.

Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with IRC (Does this disqualify me?). And, since I'm not a native English speaker, chatting in English is not my preferred way of communication. I think I can make my thoughts, ideas, arguments, etc. more clear in a "letter" form.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 08:30, 2 October 2006 (EDT)

No worries, not using IRC does not diqualify you in any way, this is supposed to be a community effort after all. However, if you could learn to use it, it would help very much since it is easier to exchange ideas "live". In any event, using Talk pages or Discussion pages might yield the same result.

Now, about modifying articles, one can modify them however he/she wants. It is customary to leave descriptions usually, but again, unless the modifications are huge, there's no real need to justify every action. However, when modifying categories things get more delicate. It is fairly good practice to keep them in one place and not complicate things unnecessarily in my opinion (even if this is a small wiki with few articles).

--[[User:Ralleyon|Ralleyon]] 08:57, 2 October 2006 (EDT)

just a small hint there is a search feature and i think it might help decrease the need for pages to point out each and every little detail like making a [[chat]] page or many catagories. Just remember we do not have unlimited space so if we can make a few pages as possible it might end up helping people in the long run. If you dont link a page to the main page most people will not see it or though a page that makes the link necessage. If you want help setting up irc just let us know and we can help you do that so you can work with us there also.

--illori 09:09, 2 October 2006 (EDT)

Installed Firefox extension Chatzilla. Tried to connect to Freenode --> [ERROR] msg.reconnecting.in ... repeatedly.
Most probably since ports 6667 are definitely not open on our firewall --> takes a little time to open it.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 10:10, 2 October 2006 (EDT)

Try port 8001

--illori 11:09, 2 October 2006 (EDT)

I visited #planeshift-wiki yesterday. There was not too much traffic there. Of course, chat is a real-time medium. But when is real-time for me, you, other folks around the world? And, due to the real-time character all information is gone once you log out, isn't it? (Or are there logs available to be able to look through the history of a channel?) So, I think more durable discussion media are far better, like forums or the discussion pages here.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 08:20, 3 October 2006 (EDT)

User talk:Geri

2006-10-02T14:11:26Z

Geri:

User talk:Geri

2006-10-02T14:10:41Z

Geri:

Just wondering why you made the page [[chat]] it is not that usefull right now. and why did you make a category for commands? We are working on redoing a lot of the players guide and since none of us have seen on irc we dont know what you are thinking and you dont know what we are thinking. If you have time please stop off on the irc channel #planeshift-wiki to discuss this with us.

--illori 07:42, 2 October 2006 (EDT)

I created [[chat]] because a fully agree to what is mentioned in Kerol's Official PSWIKI thread:

"- Keep in mind that those docs should be understandable by 9 to 99 year old people - KISS (keep it simple and stupid)!"

According to my experiences it is simpler to find something if there are more paths leading to it.

I created the category "command" since I found it in the Special page: Wanted Categories. But, I agree: the two links referring to it may have been established unintentionally while drafting, making this category obsolete once.

What I'm thinking? I like PlaneShift. Not only the game, but also the idea behind. I like the Open Community and its spirit. I think it's only fair to pay back a bit, compared to the many helpful things I (we) received from the community until now. That's why I decided to contribute to this wiki.

Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with IRC (Does this disqualify me?). And, since I'm not a native English speaker, chatting in English is not my preferred way of communication. I think I can make my thoughts, ideas, arguments, etc. more clear in a "letter" form.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 08:30, 2 October 2006 (EDT)

No worries, not using IRC does not diqualify you in any way, this is supposed to be a community effort after all. However, if you could learn to use it, it would help very much since it is easier to exchange ideas "live". In any event, using Talk pages or Discussion pages might yield the same result.

Now, about modifying articles, one can modify them however he/she wants. It is customary to leave descriptions usually, but again, unless the modifications are huge, there's no real need to justify every action. However, when modifying categories things get more delicate. It is fairly good practice to keep them in one place and not complicate things unnecessarily in my opinion (even if this is a small wiki with few articles).

--[[User:Ralleyon|Ralleyon]] 08:57, 2 October 2006 (EDT)

just a small hint there is a search feature and i think it might help decrease the need for pages to point out each and every little detail like making a [[chat]] page or many catagories. Just remember we do not have unlimited space so if we can make a few pages as possible it might end up helping people in the long run. If you dont link a page to the main page most people will not see it or though a page that makes the link necessage. If you want help setting up irc just let us know and we can help you do that so you can work with us there also.

--illori 09:09, 2 October 2006 (EDT)

Installed Firefox extension Chatzilla. Tried to connect to Freenode --> [ERROR] msg.reconnecting.in ... repeatedly
Most probably since ports 6667 are definitely not open on our firewall --> takes a little time to open it.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 10:10, 2 October 2006 (EDT)

User talk:Geri

2006-10-02T12:30:48Z

Geri:

Category:Players Guide

2006-10-02T11:41:25Z

Geri: added link to /* Command Reference */

The Players Guide is divided into six chapters, plus a command reference and glossary.

1. [[Players_Guide_Chapter_1|Installation]]

2. [[Players_Guide_Chapter_2|PlaneShift Player Guide]]

3. [[Players_Guide_Chapter_3|Setting and Background]]

4. [[Players_Guide_Chapter_4|Credits]]

5. [[Players_Guide_Chapter_5|License]]

6. [[Players_Guide_Chapter_6|Troubleshooting]]

Appendix A [[Command_Reference | Command Reference]]

Appendix B [[Glossary]]

User:Geri

2006-10-02T09:22:43Z

Geri:

Geri...

Talk:Players Guide Chapter 1

2006-10-01T19:56:28Z

Geri: /* Renaming Chapter I. from "Installation" to "Installation and Configuration" or "Installation and Setup"? */

Talk:Players Guide Chapter 1

2006-09-29T11:17:38Z

Geri: /* Consolidating OS dependent text */

Talk:Players Guide Chapter 1

2006-09-29T10:59:44Z

Geri: /* Consolidating OS dependent text */

Talk:Gameplay FAQ

2006-09-29T10:53:48Z

Geri:

1.3 Where is the town of Ojaveda? --> What is a "dsar"?

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 06:52, 29 September 2006 (EDT)

Talk:Gameplay FAQ

2006-09-29T10:52:54Z

Geri:

What is a "dsar"?

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 06:52, 29 September 2006 (EDT)

Talk:Players Guide Chapter 1

2006-09-29T10:23:00Z

Geri:

PSwiki:Community Portal

2006-09-29T10:18:29Z

Geri: /* Auxiliary */ added German links

''This section is free to use. Content here is '''not''' under the ABC license, but neverthless keep in mind not to put anything in here without the permission of the author unless it is under an open license.''

= Notice Board =

[[ToDo|These pages]] still need to be worked on.

=Links=
== Main Sources ==
'''Planeshift main site'''
*[http://www.planeshift.it/main_01.html The PS homepage]
*[http://www.planeshift.it/guide/en/index.html The player guide]

'''Laanx'''
* [http://laanx.fragnetics.com/ The laanx page] to check the server status and
* check the [http://laanx.fragnetics.com/index.php?page=char_stats char_stats] to see who is online
* If you want to change your password for whatever reason follow the link ''[http://laanx.fragnetics.com/register/ Forgot my Password]''

'''PS-Forum'''
* [http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php The PS forums]

== Development ==
*[http://www.hydlaa.com/bugtracker/ Bugtracker]
*[http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/planeshift/planeshift/docs/history.txt?view=auto CVS history]
*[http://www.crystalspace3d.org/tikiwiki/tiki-view_articles.php The mainpage of Crystal Space], the graphics engine of PS
*[http://planeshift.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/planeshift/planeshift/docs/compiling.html Compiling Guide]
*[http://laanx.fragnetics.com/nexus/ Nexus] (Dev's Website)

== Auxiliary ==
* [http://www.ps-mc.com/advice/index.php/Main_Page Advisor Haven]
* [http://www.albinomoogie.net/ Moogie`s site]

* [http://sewersofbabel.com/ Sewers of Babel]
* [http://vaalnor.mine.nu/psdoc Induane's PS documentation Website]
* [http://ugo.sinet.it/planeshift/ Ogu's PlaneShift Website]
* [http://www.planeshift.it/guide/de/index.html German player guide]
* [http://ps.fromp.net German PlaneShift Community]

== Guilds ==
* [http://freepgs.com/crimsonorder/ Crimsonorder]
* [http://www.defenders.rr.nu/ Defenders]
* [http://www.thedragoncouncil.com/ Dragon Council]
* [http://flare.slyip.com/ Felins Lair]
* [http://plakkem.byethost2.com Plakkem Hverrjanor]
* [http://ugo.sinet.it/protectors/ Protectors]
* [http://sewersofbabel.com/xillix/ Vespers of Laanx]
* [http://wayofthehammer.xordan.com/ Way of the Hammer]

PSwiki:Community Portal

2006-09-29T10:13:46Z

Geri: /* Auxiliary */ de-activated Kada-El's

''This section is free to use. Content here is '''not''' under the ABC license, but neverthless keep in mind not to put anything in here without the permission of the author unless it is under an open license.''

= Notice Board =

[[ToDo|These pages]] still need to be worked on.

=Links=
== Main Sources ==
'''Planeshift main site'''
*[http://www.planeshift.it/main_01.html The PS homepage]
*[http://www.planeshift.it/guide/en/index.html The player guide]

'''Laanx'''
* [http://laanx.fragnetics.com/ The laanx page] to check the server status and
* check the [http://laanx.fragnetics.com/index.php?page=char_stats char_stats] to see who is online
* If you want to change your password for whatever reason follow the link ''[http://laanx.fragnetics.com/register/ Forgot my Password]''

'''PS-Forum'''
* [http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php The PS forums]

== Development ==
*[http://www.hydlaa.com/bugtracker/ Bugtracker]
*[http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/planeshift/planeshift/docs/history.txt?view=auto CVS history]
*[http://www.crystalspace3d.org/tikiwiki/tiki-view_articles.php The mainpage of Crystal Space], the graphics engine of PS
*[http://planeshift.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/planeshift/planeshift/docs/compiling.html Compiling Guide]
*[http://laanx.fragnetics.com/nexus/ Nexus] (Dev's Website)

== Auxiliary ==
* [http://www.ps-mc.com/advice/index.php/Main_Page Advisor Haven]
* [http://www.albinomoogie.net/ Moogie`s site]

* [http://sewersofbabel.com/ Sewers of Babel]
* [http://vaalnor.mine.nu/psdoc Induane's PS documentation Website]
* [http://ugo.sinet.it/planeshift/ Ogu's Planeshift Website]

== Guilds ==
* [http://freepgs.com/crimsonorder/ Crimsonorder]
* [http://www.defenders.rr.nu/ Defenders]
* [http://www.thedragoncouncil.com/ Dragon Council]
* [http://flare.slyip.com/ Felins Lair]
* [http://plakkem.byethost2.com Plakkem Hverrjanor]
* [http://ugo.sinet.it/protectors/ Protectors]
* [http://sewersofbabel.com/xillix/ Vespers of Laanx]
* [http://wayofthehammer.xordan.com/ Way of the Hammer]

Talk:Players Guide Chapter 2

2006-09-29T10:05:59Z

Geri:

__FORCETOC__

== Centering images vs. left align? ==

Should we determine a general rule whether to center or left align images? At the moment it's different in different sub-chapters.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 06:05, 29 September 2006 (EDT)

File:Window Settings.jpg

2006-09-29T09:56:10Z

Geri:

Talk:Players Guide Chapter 1

2006-09-29T09:20:15Z

Geri:

Talk:Players Guide Chapter 1

2006-09-29T09:17:32Z

Geri:

== Consolidating OS dependent text ==

There is a lot of redundant text in this page. Each subheading for the different operating systems had almost identical text, with only a slight variation (commands to use). Does anyone agree that it would be clearer if each sub-heading was re-written to be a general account, and '''only''' the OS variances separated out in a sub-sub-heading?

--[[User:Jonmack|jonmack]]

Probably a good idea.
Maybe you should edit the section on a different page, change it along your ideas and then we all have a look at it and compare with the old layout. If the new layout is generally accepted we can either reditect or copy the content over the old page and delete the work-page again.

--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 09:59, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Basically a good idea. But, imagine the following (theoretically, I didn't check whether this can happen with the current contents):

1. General

Do command A... 
Do command C... 
Do command E... 

1.1 '''W'''in

Do command B-'''W'''... 
Do command D-'''W'''... 

1.2 '''M'''ac

Do command B-'''M'''... 
Do command D-'''M'''... 

1.2 '''U'''nix

Do command B-'''U'''... 
Do command D-'''U'''... 

--> Not very straightforward, compared to the actual activity.

An option:

1. General

Do command A... 
<links to B-W, B-M, B-U> 
Do command C... 
<links to D-W, D-M, D-U> 
Do command E... 

1.1 '''W'''in

<link to A> 
Do command B-'''W'''... 
<link to C> 
Do command D-'''W'''... 
<link to E> 

...and so on...

--> Still not straightforward, but with quicker jumping at least.

However, both could be too sophisticated for the "normal" user. Maybe even worse if not all OSs need the same type of commands.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 14:51, 28 September 2006 (EDT)

As far as i know most of what is done in one OS is done almost the same in the others when it comes to set up and updating (commands to get to them might change)

--illori

Hints:
1. "Chaptering" with automatic TOC works in the discussion as well
2. It's good wiki style to sign discussion contributions with two hyphens followed by four tildes: <pre>--~~~~</pre> This automatically adds your user name, or your IP if you're not loggged in, and date & time.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 05:12, 29 September 2006 (EDT)

Talk:Players Guide Chapter 1

2006-09-29T09:12:44Z

Geri:

= Consolidating OS dependent text =

There is a lot of redundant text in this page. Each subheading for the different operating systems had almost identical text, with only a slight variation (commands to use). Does anyone agree that it would be clearer if each sub-heading was re-written to be a general account, and '''only''' the OS variances separated out in a sub-sub-heading?

--[[User:Jonmack|jonmack]]

Probably a good idea.
Maybe you should edit the section on a different page, change it along your ideas and then we all have a look at it and compare with the old layout. If the new layout is generally accepted we can either reditect or copy the content over the old page and delete the work-page again.

--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 09:59, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Basically a good idea. But, imagine the following (theoretically, I didn't check whether this can happen with the current contents):

1. General

Do command A... 
Do command C... 
Do command E... 

1.1 '''W'''in

Do command B-'''W'''... 
Do command D-'''W'''... 

1.2 '''M'''ac

Do command B-'''M'''... 
Do command D-'''M'''... 

1.2 '''U'''nix

Do command B-'''U'''... 
Do command D-'''U'''... 

--> Not very straightforward, compared to the actual activity.

An option:

1. General

Do command A... 
<links to B-W, B-M, B-U> 
Do command C... 
<links to D-W, D-M, D-U> 
Do command E... 

1.1 '''W'''in

<link to A> 
Do command B-'''W'''... 
<link to C> 
Do command D-'''W'''... 
<link to E> 

...and so on...

--> Still not straightforward, but with quicker jumping at least.

However, both could be too sophisticated for the "normal" user. Maybe even worse if not all OSs need the same type of commands.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 14:51, 28 September 2006 (EDT)

As far as i know most of what is done in one OS is done almost the same in the others when it comes to set up and updating (commands to get to them might change)

--illori

Hints:
1. "Chaptering" with automatic TOC works in the discussion as well
2. It's good wiki style to sign discussion contributions with two hyphens followed by four tildes <pre>--~~~~</pre>. This automatically adds your user name, or your IP if you're not loggged in, and date & time.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 05:12, 29 September 2006 (EDT)

File:Setup Skins.jpg

2006-09-29T08:52:57Z

Geri:

File:Setup foozled.jpg

2006-09-29T08:52:44Z

Geri:

File:Setup.jpg

2006-09-29T08:52:06Z

Geri:

Talk:Players Guide Chapter 1

2006-09-28T18:51:52Z

Geri:

There is a lot of redundant text in this page. Each subheading for the different operating systems had almost identical text, with only a slight variation (commands to use). Does anyone agree that it would be clearer if each sub-heading was re-written to be a general account, and '''only''' the OS variances separated out in a sub-sub-heading?

--[[User:Jonmack|jonmack]]

Probably a good idea.
Maybe you should edit the section on a different page, change it along your ideas and then we all have a look at it and compare with the old layout. If the new layout is generally accepted we can either reditect or copy the content over the old page and delete the work-page again.

--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 09:59, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Basically a good idea. But, imagine the following (theoretically, I didn't check whether this can happen with the current contents):

1. General

Do command A... 
Do command C... 
Do command E... 

1.1 '''W'''in

Do command B-'''W'''... 
Do command D-'''W'''... 

1.2 '''M'''ac

Do command B-'''M'''... 
Do command D-'''M'''... 

1.2 '''U'''nix

Do command B-'''U'''... 
Do command D-'''U'''... 

--> Not very straightforward, compared to the actual activity.

An option:

1. General

Do command A... 
<links to B-W, B-M, B-U> 
Do command C... 
<links to D-W, D-M, D-U> 
Do command E... 

1.1 '''W'''in

<link to A> 
Do command B-'''W'''... 
<link to C> 
Do command D-'''W'''... 
<link to E> 

...and so on...

--> Still not straightforward, but with quicker jumping at least.

However, both could be too sophisticated for the "normal" user. Maybe even worse if not all OSs need the same type of commands.

--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 14:51, 28 September 2006 (EDT)